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With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

by phdunay Prodigy(March 2009) (rank 31st)
 
 
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I was talking to a small business owner last night. They are in the middle of a very costly redesign of their B2C website and I couldn't help but ask if they had plans to set up on Facebook as well.

Right now, I have Facebook on the brain. As you may recall I am in the middle of writing a book called Facebook Marketing for Dummies (Wiley) due out at the end of the summer. This book is in collaboration with long time friend Rich Krueger who is the CEO of AboutFaceDigital - an agency devoted to helping companies setup and optimize their marketing efforts on Facebook. Something they call - Facebook Marketing Optimization.

Anyway I found myself thinking - why does any business need a website any more?

With Facebook Fan pages you can build your own website on the Facebook "Platform". A website that is totally FREE of hosting and server costs, public and indexable on all search engines, with unique URL's for individual landing pages that you can tune based on if they are Fans or Non Fans, where you can host all your video (so long as it is under 10mb) and upload your product catalog with detailed descriptions (and get feedback from Fans), where you can throw an event or show presentations on a Slideshare ap, run a contest or a survey, host your blog or retweet your status updates (or better yet - just use Facebook instead of Twitter). Oh don't forget send emails to your Fans for FREE and if you want to buy targeted ads you can do that too.

With all that in your favor - Why would any business need a website anymore?

 
 

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Re: With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

Vercess
5.00 (Excellent) Vote: WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW!

April 2009

Facebook has definitely revolutionised the way online communities interact as well as pose possibilities of web hosting through Facebook fan,advertising and media applications etc. I am unsure however that it will be safe to use this channel if i want to have an "online store" through Facebook. How will the purchase process be conducted? eg. Will it allow Payments made through paypal/EFT/Visa etc . Other issues that may arise are privacy and confidentiality issues...

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Re: With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

JoshAK
5.00 (Excellent) Vote: WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW!

March 2009

@phdunay - I was referring to this line in the FB TOS:

"You understand that except for advertising programs offered by us on the Site (e.g., Facebook Flyers, Facebook Marketplace), the Service and the Site are available for your personal, non-commercial use only."

Its under the user conduct portion. Presumably if you are basing your business off a FB page then it is a commercial purpose. So spamming or not I would think you would be in violation of the TOS and they could decide to enforce that whenever they please.

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Re: With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

ClayCook
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March 2009

 what do people think about Merchant Circle for small businesses... allows for ratings, customer comments, google maps etc... maybe that's all some small businesses need?

Also: agree with wordpress and ning as well.

However I think if you are a real serious player... you need your own customised site, but maybe 50% of businesses could get away with utilising some of these resources instead...

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Re: With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

phdunay
4.64 (Excellent) Vote: Interesting Interesting Interesting Interesting Interesting

March 2009

@ joshAK - yes you can lose your page if FB determines you are spamming people too much (they look at the number of reported spam to the number of messages sent) - that would be a real bummer if you based your business on FB then spammed a bunch of people and got kicked off - but I guess you get what you deserve

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Re: With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

phdunay
5.00 (Excellent) Vote: WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW!

March 2009

@ Clay Cook - it doesnt exist yet they just opened up the new Fan pages to this capability - off the top of my head take a look at Coke (which isnt run by Coke at all - its by a Fanatic of the brand)

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Re: With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

phdunay
5.00 (Excellent) Vote: WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW!

March 2009

@ Silk Merchant - great points - Wordpress is a good option too since it is free and your have tons of control over content and SEO ability - FB may not be perfect but it is headed in an interesting direction that could make it a player

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Re: With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

silk-merchant
5.00 (Excellent) Vote: WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW!

March 2009

Why even Facebook?

Ning seems like a better option.

Plus there's also Wordpress.com and many others.

Certainly for any business that doesn't need ecom and more advanced features these sites are definitely a viable option.

Some of them even have sophisticated ecom options. Ning let's you use your own url etc, so I think it's definitely a growing trend.

I've already started small revolution in the aquaculture industry of WA with many of the industry groups using Ning because it's so quick, easy and free. See the Marron Growers site for an example.

But as for why you wouldn't do it, I agree completely with Josh - it's about control.

As marketers you want flexibility over all aspects of your business and control. If you don't control it, you can't do anything about it when things go wrong.

Then there's the whole issue of who owns the data, and Facebook's still arguing about that one aren't they?

Also, I don't know any marketer who's willing to give up their data to anyone, let alone something as amorphous as Facebook.

Anyway, great post Paul

 

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Re: With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

ClayCook
5.00 (Excellent) Vote: WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW!

March 2009

 interesting question.

can you point to a fan page that you think takes advantage of all these items mentioned, and thus doesn't need a homepage?

i would love to look at it and understand this better... 

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Re: With Facebook Pages - Who needs a Website?

JoshAK
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March 2009

This is an interesting question. As there are many sites beyond Facebook that fit particular niches (and could even be used to drive traffic to your Facebook page if you wanted) it is something that I have been considering for test/hobby projects. I can say that there are a few reasons I would want to have my own site for a business. The big one being controll, if my site is on Facebook and they decide to change the format, I have no say in it, or if they decide that I violated their TOS and suspend my account I am at their mercy. Those reasons alone are why I wouldn't trust my site to be entirely hosted on Facebook, but there is also the fact that you don't know what the future holds for any major social site. It wasn't long ago that MySpace was a powerhouse that everyone thought was unstopable and Facebook changed that in the blink of an eye.

Its a very intriguing idea and one that I think has become more appealing over time (for the very reasons you mentioned above) thanks for posing this question.

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